Troubleshoot Connecting Bluetooth Comms Link to Windows.

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Troubleshoot Connecting Bluetooth Comms Link to Windows.

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Re: Troubleshoot Connecting Bluetooth Comms Link to Windows.

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I have paired a Bluetooth wireless serial (RS232) module with my laptop.
Psi2Win identifies one of the bluetooth serial ports when I open the "set-up" box. But when I press "ok" to continue Psi2Win is freezing and I get the message
Run-time error 8000
Port already open
Has anyone any idea?
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Bluetooth wireless serial (RS232) module

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NickKostelidis wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:43 pm I have paired a Bluetooth wireless serial (RS232) module with my laptop.
Psi2Win identifies one of the bluetooth serial ports when I open the "set-up" box. But when I press "ok" to continue Psi2Win is freezing and I get the message
Run-time error 8000
Port already open
Has anyone any idea?
Nick

(1) Can you post a picture, description and any documentation you got with your 'Bluetooth wireless serial (RS232) module’?

(2) If I'm right that Windows opens two COMS ports for a bluetooth device, have you tried using the other?

(3) You could try using ORG-Link (on the DevPACK.ZIP - manual on the Comms Link page). Although this like Psi2Win uses PSION protocol (rather than xmodem or none) and your 'module' may not be. A word of warning make sure you back up everything before using ORG-Link, It once wiped out all my A:.

(4) Try a Windows App like 'Bluetooth Serial Terminal' to test the connection and see if there is any activity at all on those ports.

Sincerely
Martin
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Re: Troubleshoot Connecting Bluetooth Comms Link to Windows.

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1
Martin this is the bluetooth adapter I have tried
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RS232-Bluetoot ... 2749.l2649
2
Yes I have tried all the available comm ports.
3
I will try ORG-Link and I will let you know as soon as I have some news.
4
Yes I have used "Bluetooth serial terminal" for windows10.
Also I have used the "Tera terminal" app.
I paired the adapter using "Bluetooth serial terminal" but I had no response when I was sending an AT command.
Using "Tera terminal" everything works fine.
Best regards.
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Re: Bluetooth wireless serial (RS232) module

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MartinReid wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:00 pm
NickKostelidis wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:43 pm I have paired a Bluetooth wireless serial (RS232) module with my laptop.
Psi2Win identifies one of the bluetooth serial ports when I open the "set-up" box. But when I press "ok" to continue Psi2Win is freezing and I get the message
Run-time error 8000
Port already open
Has anyone any idea?
Nick

(1) Can you post a picture, description and any documentation you got with your 'Bluetooth wireless serial (RS232) module’?

(2) If I'm right that Windows opens two COMS ports for a bluetooth device, have you tried using the other?

(3) You could try using ORG-Link (on the DevPACK.ZIP - manual on the Comms Link page). Although this like Psi2Win uses PSION protocol (rather than xmodem or none) and your 'module' may not be. A word of warning make sure you back up everything before using ORG-Link, It once wiped out all my A:.

(4) Try a Windows App like 'Bluetooth Serial Terminal' to test the connection and see if there is any activity at all on those ports.

Sincerely
Martin
Good evening.
I connected today a HC-06 bluetooth module with a comms link cable.
I used as always the three basic lines of serial communication.
I am talking about TxD (yellow cable), RxD (orange cable) and ground (black cable).
I used an external 3.7V battery for the power supply of the module.
On PC I used "bluetooth serial terminal" app for windows 10, while Psi2Win cannot be used for communication via bluetooth.
First I tried to communicate using PSION protocol.
On Psion II I got the message "BAD DEVICE CALL" and there was no reaction on PC.
At my  second try I used XMODEM protocol.
I got the message "connecting" on Psion II but there was no reaction on PC.
Finally I used NONE protocol on the organizer and Psion II communicated with PC via bluetooth.
I didn't take the file as I get it using Psi2Win but the good thing is there was communication.
I use SurveCE app to collect data from my GNSS receiver.
SurvCE is running on data collector in windows mobile environment.
I also have worked with other similar apps like Field Genius.
Communication between GNSS receivers , Surveying instruments and data collectors is via bluetooth.
I have noticed that apps always undertake to pair bluetooth devices.
That means that Psi2Win cannot be used for communication via bluetooth. Unfortunately Borris cannot fix it...
I have some images to upload but I don't know how to do this.
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These are Nicks screen shots..
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Organiser Comms Link 02
Organiser Comms Link 02
PC screen 02
PC screen 02
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Re: Troubleshoot Connecting Bluetooth Comms Link to Windows.

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Thank you very much Martin.
How you did this?
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NickKostelidis wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:47 pm Thank you very much Martin.
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Re: Troubleshoot Connecting Bluetooth Comms Link to Windows.

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Hello to all.
Finally I managed to send a file from Psion II (LZ) to PC via bluetooth module.I used two bluetooth modules. First time I connected an HC-05 to the exit of a comms link cable.Second time I connected an HC-06 to the exit of a comms link cable. The difference between these two modules is that HC-05 module can work as "master" and as "slave". HC-06 module can work only as a slave.
This time I used both of them as "slave".
I was trying for many days now to send a file from Psion II to PC and I was receiving a file like the picture above this post (many thanks to Martin for the posting of the pictures).
Today I decided to apply 5V power on the module instead of   3.3V I was applying before. And then the miracle happened.
I received the file to the PC as I received it when I sent it from Psion II to PC via cable using Psi2Win.
At this point I have to say something strange to me.
The connection between comms link and the module is as follows
1 The TxD wire (yellow) of comms link to RxD pin of the module.
2 The RxD wire (orange) of comms link to TxD pin of the module.
3 The + wire (red) of the external battery I used to VCC pin of the module.
4 The - wire (black) of the external battery I used to GND pin of the module.
Normally I think I have to connect the GND (black) wire of the comms link to GND pin of the module, like the one from the battery.
When I did this , absolutely nothing happened.
When I disconnected the GND wire of comms link from the module,
Psion II sent the file to the PC normally.
Strange to me but it works.
The setup I used is Baud rate 9600, parity none, data bits 8, stop bits 1, Hand none, Protocol none, Echo Host.
When I tried to change Protocol from None to Psion or to XModem, no connection was taking place.
I also tried to send a string to the PC using LPRINT command.
It was successful too. I used XModem protocol to send the string and it was successful too.
But when I tried to send the string using PSION protocol there was no connection.
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Troubleshoot Connecting Bluetooth Comms Link to Windows.

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These are Nicks bluetooth screen shots..
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First send a known short string
First send a known short string
Then a more substantial file
Then a more substantial file
Finally something comprehensive
Finally something comprehensive
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